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S2E6: The Man Who Heard Voices | If You Please
George Wesley Sanderson is a Manhattan lawyer cursed with the strange gift of hearing voices — voices that both predict the future and make it impossible for him to forget his past, particularly the circumstances surrounding his late wife's death, for which George may be responsible. Fifteen years ago, while his wife lay gravely ill, George fell for his boss's beautiful daughter. Now, fifteen years later, the voices return with unsettling karmic reciprocity.
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Recording Date
09/28/2026
First Air Date
10/08/2026
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
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S2E5: Three Women | If You Please
Aspiring novelist Steven Lake has spent seven years writing his debut novel only to fall in love with his own creation — the captivating and mercurial Clarissa. Noted publisher Albert Higgins wants to publish the book, but only if Steven will rewrite the ending to save Clarissa for a sequel. Higgins wants just ten new pages, but Steven hesitates, afraid that if he allows Clarissa to survive, she'll ruin his life.
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Recording Date
09/21/2026
First Air Date
10/01/2026
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
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S2E4: Time and Again | If You Please
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
This week: Time and Again
Clockmaker Ethan Vigil acquires an antique timepiece marked with the numeral 13 at the top of its dial — a detail as strange as its refusal to run. But when his wife cuts her finger on on the works inside, the clock unexpectedly comes to life, and Ethan discovers the device grants him an extraordinary gift: twice a day, time stops for everyone but him, granting him two extra hours of solitude daily. He thrives, but soon discovers that his reprieve comes at a terrible cost.
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Recording Date
09/07/2026
First Air Date
9/17/2026
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
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S2E3: Ring of Truth | If You Please
Raven's End is a 1963 Swedish drama film directed by Bo Widerberg, about an aspiring working-class writer in Malmö. The story bears some similarities to Widerberg's own background, although he claimed it to be entirely fictional. In the mid-1930s, Anders dreams of becoming a writer. Anders sends a manuscript for a book he has written about the block they live in to a publisher in Stockholm.
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Recording Date
09/07/2026
First Air Date
9/17/2026
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
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S2E2: Speak of the Devil | If You Please
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
This week: Speak of the Devil
Mary Ellen McKay returns with her American fiancé, Michael, to her childhood home on the windswept Solway Firth, where her Aunt Jeannie raised her. Soon after arriving, they take part in one of her aunt’s regular séances, unknowingly inviting a sinister force into their lives. Then, on her wedding night, Ellen’s dreams are invaded by a monstrous presence, and as the terrifying visits continue, she discovers she is pregnant, leaving her tormented as she unravels the terrifying link between the séance and her quickening child.
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Recording Date 09/01/2026 First Air Date 9/10/2026
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
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S2E1: Deadly Honeymoon | If You Please
Newlyweds Susan and Dan Carey embark on a cross-country honeymoon before settling in San Francisco, where Dan will manage his firm's office. But Susan's post-wedding bliss unravels when Lt. Harrington of the New York City Police approaches her with a chilling accusation: her husband is a serial wife-killer who murders wealthy women after marrying them. As uncanny parallels emerge between their honeymoon itinerary and Harrington's story, Susan's terror mounts, threatening both her marriage and Dan's life.
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Recording Date
08/24/2026
First Air Date
9/3/2026
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
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If You Please... Himan Brown's Radio Mystery Theater Season 2 TRAILER
IF YOU PLEASE… HIMAN BROWN’S RADIO MYSTERY THEATER, RETURNS FOR SEASON 2
Radio Drama pioneer Himan Brown’s shows from his CBS Radio Mystery Theater series, which ran from 1974 to 1982, are remastered from his personal vault of 1400 shows.
With over 10,000 programs in a career spanning over 85 years, Brown left an extraordinary legacy of socially impactful shows that were as entertaining as they were illuminating.
Brown was especially proud of his inventive reimagining of radio drama for contemporary times. Each episode of this new thirteen-week series will feature an engrossing story, commissioned by Brown and featuring a hand-picked cast of actors who were already well-known performers on stage, film, and later television.
Himan Brown scholar John Slavney, who is authoring the definitive guide to the CBS Radio Mystery Theater programs, returns with his commentary, sharing behind-the-scenes stories about the productions. Series host EG Marshall will once again welcome listeners to “the sound of suspense; the fear you can hear.”
Join us each Thursday for thrillers, chillers, and edgy mysteries from CUNY-TV and the Himan Brown Archive with If You Please… Himan Brown's Radio Mystery Theater. Season 2 premieres September 3.
Production Credits
Executive Producer/Producer/ Director: Sarah Montague.
Executive Producer/ President of Radio Drama Network: Melina Brown
CUNY TV Executive Director: Chiqui Cartegna
CUNY TV Director of Production: Susan Iger
CUNY TV Associate Producer: Corinne Wallace
Director/Producer Content: Karen A. Brown
Social Media: Stardust Blue PR
Series Host: Margot Avery.
If You Please is a production of CUNY TV and Radio Drama Network, Inc.
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Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
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S1E13: And Nothing but the Truth | If You Please
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
This week: And Nothing but the Truth
Teenager David Williams, shaken after hitting a man while driving drunk on a rainy night, rushes home and confesses to his father, Grant, a college professor. Taking charge, Grant goes to the precinct and claims responsibility for the crime. Det. Rizzo questions the professor’s oddly composed demeanor, though his lieutenant dismisses the concern. Meanwhile, Grant’s wife, Marian, grows uneasy and urges David to tell the truth — just as news breaks of a murdered young coed with ties to the Williams family.
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Recording Date 08/17/2026 First Air Date 8/27/2026
Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
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S1E12: A Very Old Man | If You Please
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
This week: A Very Old Man
In a small rural village, Stefan, an elderly farmer, possesses an inexplicable ability to diagnose and heal ailments — a talent that irritates and confounds his son-in-law, Manfred, a doctor. Yet after witnessing Stefan diagnose hidden conditions and cure people and animals with just the warmth from his hands, even Manfred becomes a reluctant believer. Stefan insists these powers flow through him from his infant daughter Amalie, who died shortly after she was born, decades ago, and with whose spirit he continues to commune.Follow CUNY TV:
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Recording Date 08/10/2026. First Air Date 8/20/26
Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
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S1E11: Dead for a Dollar | If You Please
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
This week: Dead for a Dollar
In a local bar, two angry men plot to kill Jason Grant, the ruthless tycoon who destroyed their lives. Wynn Thomas wants revenge for his brother's death in Korea, while Harry Tolan seeks payback for his stolen wife and business. They devise an elaborate murder scheme, which quickly goes awry, leaving Grant alive but suspicious. That same night, Grant tells his son, Tony, about plans to divorce Tony's mother and marry his secretary, Kay. By morning, Grant is dead. Lieutenant Metcalf investigates, eventually coaxing a confession from the killer.
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Recording Date 08/03/2026 First Air Date 8/13/2026
Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
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S1E10: The Girl Who Found Things | If You Please
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
This week: The Girl Who Found Things
When his half-sister, Geraldine, goes missing, David Wheeler returns to his family's estate in Medvale with his new wife. His eccentric Aunt Faith enlists Iris Lloyd, a sixteen-year-old clairvoyant from the local girls’ home, hoping that her gift for “finding things” will reveal what happened. David, who secretly arranged Geraldine’s murder, initially dismisses Iris’s abilities, but he becomes unnerved after the teenage psychic attempts to seduce him and then begins producing uncanny insights about the fate of of his missing sister.
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Recording Date 07/27/2026
First Air Date 08/06/2026
Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
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S1E9: Ring a Ring of Roses | If You Please
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
This week: Ring a Ring of Roses
Laurie Thornton and her fiancé, George, set out to visit her former college roommate, Helena, at her family's remote estate, but their journey is interrupted by an eerie roadside vision of a violent clash between a father and daughter. They soon discover the haunting is tied to a cursed family heirloom: a ring with a rose-colored stone, rumored to prevent its female bearers from marrying. Later, Helena’s mother insists Laurie accept the ring as an engagement gift — which she does, but soon regrets.
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Recording Date 07/20/2026 First Air Date 7/30/2026
Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
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S1E8: You Can Die Again | If You Please
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
This week: You Can Die Again
In 1950s America, businessman Spencer Chadwick stands over the body of his wife, Margaret, confessing murder to his friend, Inspector Faraday. His troubles began three months earlier when, at breakfast, he suddenly couldn’t recognize Margaret. Soon, he becomes obsessed with Peggy, a vibrant young woman, and meticulously recreates a downtown apartment filled with relics from two decades past. Within this carefully built world, Spencer’s long-abandoned youthful ambitions collide with reality.
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Recording Date 07/13/2026 First Air Date 7/23/2026
Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
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S1E7: Accounts Receivable | If You Please
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
This week: Accounts Receivable
Phil Kohlman, an honest gas station owner, faces ruin unless he can raise $15,000 to buy out his disagreeable partner. Meanwhile, his estranged father, Rick — a newly paroled bank robber who served ten years for a $106,000 heist — moves into his home, unsettling Phil’s wife and teenage son. With the deadline for the gas station deal looming, Phil’s desperation mounts, culminating in a midnight confrontation with his father on a lonely hilltop outside town.
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Recording Date 07/06/2026 First Air Date 7/16/2026
Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
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S1E6: Cold Storage | If You Please
Welcome to If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater. On this series we are offering rebroadcasts of a select group of programs created by this legendary producer for CBS between 1974 and 1982. Brown reimagined radio drama for contemporary times. Our new series offers some of these exciting works again, and includes comments by John Slavney about each episode.
This week: Cold Storage
At Westerly estate in 19th-century Maryland, Buford Montgomery is shocked to find his supposedly dead mother alive in her coffin after a mistaken declaration of death. Seizing the chance to break free and claim his inheritance, he locks her beneath the house, forcing his servants into unwilling complicity tied to an old murder confession. But his relief is short-lived — Nancy Lee, his scheming lover, traps him in marriage by claiming she’s pregnant. Desperate, Buford makes a grim decision: his wife will join his mother below.
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Recording Date 06/29/2026 First Air Date 7/9/2026
Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
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About This Show
Radio producer Himan Brown created over 10,000 programs in his lifetime, with a vigor and intensity that kept him going for a century. His life and prodigious output are celebrated in the podcast series Audio Maverick. Now, we offer rebroadcasts of a select group of Brown’s programs in a new series called If You Please, Himan Brown’s Radio Mystery Theater.
Brown flourished during the Golden Age of Radio, the period between the late 1920s and the 1940s during which radio was the dominant entertainment medium in the country. But he was especially proud of his inventive reimagining of radio drama for contemporary times—the CBS Radio Mystery Theater series, which ran from 1974 to 1982. Our new series—beginning with two 13-week seasons—will offer some of these exciting works again.
Each of our thirteen programs will be introduced by editor and former communications director John Slavney, who is authoring the definitive guide to the CBS Radio Mystery Theater programs and will share details about the original series host—the distinguished actor EG Marshall—the playwrights, the actors, and the origin stories of some very strange plots.
Series trailer
Podcast schedule
Every Thursday beginning June 4th, 2026.

