This edition: Leonard Herzenberg, Maggie Nelson, and Jeff Talman
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Original tape date: March 30, 2026. First aired: April 20, 2026.On this episode of CUNY Laureates, we profile another three Guggenheim Fellows who graduated from the City University of New York.
Leonard Herzenberg was an immunologist and geneticist at Stanford University who helped revolutionize the field of medicine with the invention of the fluorescence activated cell sorter. Working off an earlier cell sorter created at the Los Alamos National Laboratory, Leonard and his team of Stanford engineers adapted the machine to separate cells by fluorescent tags. He later improved the machine by incorporating monoclonal antibodies, which could tag cells more accurately. Leonard spent his entire career working alongside his wife and fellow scientist Leonore Herzenberg, who was instrumental in much of his work, including the development of the cell sorter. Fluorescence activated cell sorters have been instrumental in the study of autoimmune diseases, cancers, and stem cell research, and are present in nearly every major medical laboratory today. Leonard was awarded Guggenheim Fellowships in both 1976 and 1986.
Maggie Nelson’s genre-bending books were shaped by her early years in New York City and at the Graduate Center. When she first arrived in the city, she was influenced by the “New York School” of artists and took the movement in a new direction with her writings and her studies. Now a professor at the University of Southern California, she continues to publish new and challenging life writing, including her latest from 2025, “Pathemata, Or, The Story of My Mouth”. Nelson won a Guggenheim fellowship in 2010.
Jeff Talman has been creating art installations based on found sound for over 25 years. But what brought him to this unique field? In his early years, Talman explored the cathedrals of Europe and captured the sound inside these large spaces, and what he heard turned into his lifelong project. In 2006 he was awarded a Guggenheim fellowship to continue his work and later, he expanded out of cathedrals to explore the sound of the outside world, including that of the cosmic background radiation, which some have called the sound of creation.
00:00 – Intro
00:43 – Leonard Herzenberg
09:21 – Maggie Nelson
17:59 – Jeff Talman
Guest List
Maggie Nelson Writer
Jeff Talman Sound Artist
- Special: Paule Marshall, Ben Katchor, and Sol Yurick
- Wednesday, August 12 - 5:00pm
- Friday, August 14 - 7:30am
- Tuesday, August 25 - 5:00pm
- Monday, September 7 - 5:00pm
- John Yao, Sol Yurick, and Lisa Corinne Davis
- Thursday, August 13 - 5:00pm
- Wednesday, August 26 - 5:00pm
- Tuesday, September 8 - 5:00pm
- Harold Schonberg, Annie Baker, and Howard Sackler
- Friday, August 14 - 5:30pm
- Saturday, August 15 - 5:30pm
- Sunday, August 16 - 5:30pm
- Arno Penzias, Rosalyn Yalow and John O'Keefe
- Saturday, August 15 - 7:30am
- Leon Lederman, Julius Axelrod, Herbert Hauptman and Jerome Karle
- Sunday, August 16 - 7:30am
- Ralph Blumenthal, Gertrude Himmelfarb, and Stanley Milgram
- Monday, August 17 - 5:00pm
- Thursday, August 27 - 5:00pm
- Wednesday, September 9 - 5:00pm
- Frederic Tuten, Roya Hakakian, and Frances Barth
- Tuesday, August 18 - 5:00pm
- Monday, August 31 - 5:00pm
- Thursday, September 10 - 5:00pm
- Ira Eduardovna, Edward Grant, and Leonard Kleinrock
- Wednesday, August 19 - 5:00pm
- Tuesday, September 1 - 5:00pm
- Leonard Herzenberg, Maggie Nelson, and Jeff Talman
- Thursday, August 20 - 5:00pm
- Wednesday, September 2 - 5:00pm
- Arthur Kornberg, Kenneth Arrow and CUNY at 175
- Friday, August 21 - 7:30am
- Sylvan Fox, Ada Louise Huxtable, and Lloyd Schwartz
- Friday, August 21 - 5:30pm
- Saturday, August 22 - 5:30pm
- Sunday, August 23 - 5:30pm
- Gertrude Elion, Robert Aumann and Hunter College History
- Saturday, August 22 - 7:30am
- Stanley Cohen, Robert Hofstadter and Brooklyn College History
- Sunday, August 23 - 7:30am
- Alex Rosenberg, Ruby Cohn, and Selena Kimball
- Monday, August 24 - 5:00pm
- Thursday, September 3 - 5:00pm
- The MacArthur Fellowship, Ben Katchor and Ada Louise Huxtable
- Friday, August 28 - 7:30am
- Oscar Handlin, Gregory Pardlo, and Frank McCourt
- Friday, August 28 - 5:30pm
- Saturday, August 29 - 5:30pm
- Sunday, August 30 - 5:30pm
- Eric Wolf, Pepón Osorio, and Paule Marshall
- Saturday, August 29 - 7:30am
- David Rudovsky, Bright Sheng, and Patricia Wright
- Sunday, August 30 - 7:30am
- Stanley Nelson, Irving Howe, and Lawrence Levine
- Friday, September 4 - 7:30am
- Marvin Hamlisch, Richard Ofshe, and Upton Sinclair
- Friday, September 4 - 5:30pm
- Saturday, September 5 - 5:30pm
- Sunday, September 6 - 5:30pm
- Maggie Nelson, Elliot Sperling, and Peter Jeffery
- Saturday, September 5 - 7:30am
- Denny Moore, Vanessa Ruta, and Cristina Jiménez Moreta
- Sunday, September 6 - 7:30am
- Leonard Herzenberg, Maggie Nelson, and Jeff Talman
- Saturday, August 8 - 7:30am
- Monday, August 10 - 5:00pm
- Ralph Blumenthal, Gertrude Himmelfarb, and Stanley Milgram
- Saturday, August 1 - 7:30am
- Tuesday, August 4 - 5:00pm
- John Yao, Sol Yurick, and Lisa Corinne Davis
- Friday, July 31 - 7:30am
- Monday, August 3 - 5:00pm
- Marvin Hamlisch, Richard Ofshe, and Upton Sinclair
- Sunday, July 26 - 7:30am, 5:30pm
- Oscar Handlin, Gregory Pardlo, and Frank McCourt
- Saturday, July 25 - 7:30am, 5:30pm
- Sylvan Fox, Ada Louise Huxtable, and Lloyd Schwartz
- Friday, July 24 - 7:30am, 5:30pm
- Special: Paule Marshall, Ben Katchor, and Sol Yurick
- Monday, July 20 - 5:00pm
- Tuesday, July 21 - 5:00pm
- Wednesday, July 22 - 5:00pm
- Thursday, July 23 - 5:00pm
- Monday, July 27 - 5:00pm
- Tuesday, July 28 - 5:00pm
- Wednesday, July 29 - 5:00pm
- Thursday, July 30 - 5:00pm
- Harold Schonberg, Annie Baker, and Howard Sackler
- Sunday, July 19 - 7:30am, 5:30pm
- Liu Heung Shing, Bernard Malamud, and A. M. Rosenthal
- Saturday, July 18 - 7:30am, 5:30pm
- Friday, August 7 - 5:30pm
- Saturday, August 8 - 5:30pm
- Sunday, August 9 - 5:30pm
- The Pulitzer Prize, Angela Hill, and Oscar Hijuelos
- Friday, July 17 - 7:30am, 5:30pm
- Friday, July 31 - 5:30pm
- Saturday, August 1 - 5:30pm
- Sunday, August 2 - 5:30pm
- Alex Rosenberg, Ruby Cohn, and Selena Kimball
- Thursday, July 16 - 5:00pm
- Sunday, August 9 - 7:30am
- Tuesday, August 11 - 5:00pm
- Ira Eduardovna, Edward Grant, and Leonard Kleinrock
- Tuesday, July 14 - 5:00pm
- Thursday, August 6 - 5:00pm
- Friday, August 7 - 7:30am
- Frederic Tuten, Roya Hakakian, and Frances Barth
- Monday, July 13 - 5:00pm
- Sunday, August 2 - 7:30am
- Wednesday, August 5 - 5:00pm

