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Underground Empire, a real-life techno-thriller by Henry Farrell and Abraham Newman, reveals how the U.S. controls a global web of surveillance, in the form of networks of fiber optic cables and banking systems, giving it enormous economic power. Farrell and Newman show how these channels, weaponized after 9/11 but now used as a matter of course, have become realms of spying and coercion over foreign businesses and countries, allowing for U.S domination. Paul Krugman — Nobel laureate in economics, columnist for The New York Times, and distinguished professor at the CUNY Graduate Center — speaks with the authors about their investigation and the geopolitical implications of the power they uncover.

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