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This edition: Building a Democratic Economy from Cleveland to Preston


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Episode Details

Original tape date: August 11, 2019. First aired: July 3, 2026.

How does an economy emerge from a recession? Historically, cities hard hit by deindustrialization have strived to attract big employers from elsewhere by offering incentives and tax breaks. But outside employers rarely invest in a place long term, and all too often skip town when the incentives run out. In some places, local governments have been experimenting with other strategies. In Preston, England, they’re experimenting with investing public money in locally-owned businesses and cooperatives, and encouraging local “anchor” institutions to buy from, or train, local vendors. They’re calling it the Preston model of community wealth building, and it’s inspired by a model in another formerly industrialized city: Cleveland, Ohio, home of the Evergreen Cooperatives. In 2018, Laura went to Preston to find out more.

Guest List

Matthew Brown Preston City Council

Aditya Chakrabortty The Guardian

Dr. Ornette Clennon Critical Race and Ethnicity Research Cluster, Manchester Metropolitan University

Jeremy Corbyn The Labour Party

Jonathan Grisdale Unite The Union

Ted Howard The Democracy Collaborative

Kay Johnson The Larder; Sustainable Food Lancashire

Paul Kelly Gateway Housing Association

John McDonnell Labour Party

Neil McInroy Scottish Government

Lorraine Norris Preston City Council

Ahmet Oykener Enfield Council

Kayleigh Walsh Outlandish