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Host Sam Roberts talks with reporter David Chen about how lawmakers in New York, Colorado, Washington, California, and other states are testing the limits of the Supremacy Clause with bills to let residents sue ICE agents, target airline fuel tax breaks, and use other fiscal levers in response to Trump’s hard-line immigration push and outrage over ICE killings in Minneapolis. He then speaks with longtime Times journalist David Margolick about his book When Caesar Was King, tracing how Sid Caesar’s live 90-minute sketch comedy, powerhouse writers’ room with Mel Brooks, Neil Simon, and Larry Gelbart, and nervy, character-driven TV reinvented American comedy and paved the way for shows like Saturday Night Live and 30 Rock, even as television’s changing audience ultimately consumed him.

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